Beyond that, though, here are two men representing polar opposites in their respective countries. Both are far more than mere footballers but whereas in England, it is impossible to separate Beckham's extraordinary popularity from his almost symbolic place in a shallow, bland celebrity culture, Thuram has used his fame in France as a vehicle to become an articulate social commentator, controversial scourge of politicians and a fearless people's champion. "When he speaks, France listens," a journalist here assured me.