Jopling's sharp instinct had drawn him to Hirst, but just like many other talent/manager relationships, theirs could be tempestuous. 'Oh, we've had loads of arguments, says Hirst. When you think you can do anything, you're bound to. Also, he's a big lad, so he can drink more than me. I remember throwing up in a hotel sink in Paris and Jay was saying, "Come on, let's go out and drink some more."' An early moment of tension occurred when Hirst stole Jopling's girlfriend Maia, now the mother of his three children. 'It all got a bit messy for a while,' he remembers. 'Last year I saw one of my fish pieces in Jay's house and I said, "Did I give you that?" And he said: "Yes, I think it was in exchange for my girlfriend." It's worth over a million now.'