McQueen, who lives in Amsterdam with his Dutch director/producer wife Bianca Stigter and their two children, describes Embarrassed as a ‘beginning’ of his work into health inequalities. Over the course of our conversation he becomes bouncier and more hopeful in tone. When Embarrassed was launched at Tate Britain, McQueen was invigorated by what he saw: ‘a sea of beautiful, Black, sharp, sexy looking people — artists, film-makers, musicians, comedians, actors, politicians’. The event was attended by actor Ncuti Gatwa, Dawn Butler MP, Tinie Tempah and tailor Ozwald Boateng, among others. McQueen has, for a long time, found himself the only Black person in many artistic spaces, so his eyes brighten when he thinks of how much has changed. The event was, he says, ‘celebratory, because in some ways, it was about us taking control of the situation and changing our lives’.