‘That’s something we wanted to embrace in our programme this year,’ says Hannah Barry, the curator of the series. ‘In the last 15 to 20 years or so these words like “immersive” and “experiential” have come up a lot in the arts. But in the end, if something is very pure or extreme, it immerses you in that world — and no one needs to tell you that it’s going to, that’s the intention, it just does.’ She, too, is deeply bored by conversations about who is allowed to like Monteverdi. What she puts on is dictated by what she thinks would be cool in that space. There has been ballet this season; next year, she is thinking about wheeling in a church organ. ‘Somehow it computed in my mind: “Wouldn’t it be wild to do an organ programme next year? And to put the organ at the bottom of the ramp?”’ The point is, she says, that it could be exciting for any number of reasons: organs are loud, the music is weird, there is a new generation of excellent organists apparently, it is ‘fundamentally architectural music’ and so it will attract different people. ‘It doesn’t have to be about young people. Some people come because they’re on a date, others are with their family. It’s lovely if you’ve got one friend you go to these things with all the time, but what’s really nice is to go to different things for different reasons with different people.’