There's something touching about the distant, respectful way he describes him as 'a very intelligent, talented man', almost as if he were quoting an album review. To compound the situation, there was another son on the scene: Luke Cave, born ten days after Jethro, in Brazil, to Cave's other girlfriend, the stylist Viviane Carneiro. 'It was a difficult time, but it turned out great in the end,' Nick Cave told a journalist in 2008. 'To my eternal regret, I didn't make much contact with Jethro in the early years, but I now have a great relationship with him.'