The growing pains of Graham Coxon

‘I think we’ve all got more so. Our personalities have been amplified, we’re all semi-mad, all on the cusp of eccentricity… but we always kind of were.’ They’re still in contact, sending messages here and there, but always beholden to each other’s busy schedules (‘Damon never stops, he’s always working’). But there’s perhaps nothing more eccentric than James’ journey to becoming a purveyor of fine cheese. Coxon isn’t surprised at all. ‘He loves cheese, he always did, so I don’t see why not. I suppose we all did some - thing that we love. I’ve played the guitar and written songs and done the odd bit of painting, but I don’t even know whether that’s the best thing I can do.’

And so, Coxon turned his hand to storytelling in the depths of lockdown, rehashing everything from his early years on the barracks as an army kid, to filling stadiums by his mid-20s, to now striking out on his own.

Through his daily lockdown therapy, he realised that what he had been medicating all the years before he stopped drinking (he has been ‘clean and sober for years’) was the anxiety. He just assumed ‘this feeling that you’ve always had, was part of being alive. All I knew was that it disappeared when I had a drink.’ The slide into excess was a natural progression in the music business, he concedes. ‘When you go from nothing to a huge pile of booze and you can pretty much tell a runner to get you anything, it’s difficult. There’s no one warning you, you just have to find out for yourself.’

‘We were sort of taking our inspiration from Sixties and Seventies bands in how to behave,’ he says of their love for rock’n’roll gods such as The Who and Led Zeppelin. ‘And there are certain men I looked up to who were probably having a really difficult time with all of that in those days. Pete Townsend wasn’t exactly comfortable with it. Ray Davies wasn’t exactly comfortable with everything. But it wasn’t really talked about at the time.’

The Nineties version of all this was the newly pressed ‘lad culture’, a toxic strain Coxon found deeply discomfiting. ‘I got exorcised quite a lot in the Nineties with things like Nuts and Bollocks magazines or whatever they were called, and this new lad thing and The Guardian saying, “Yes, it’s great to like football.” Suddenly it gave a lot of people permission to act like dickheads. I found that all a bit difficult, especially when it’s seeping into our gigs. I was an indie person and then suddenly you have a big laddish contingency. I don’t think we had it probably as much as Oasis, we were fairly 50:50, our audiences, like Pulp or something. But it was there, and it was annoying.’

He wonders whether Blur’s anthemic take on the 18-30s holiday ‘Girls and Boys’ — at the time a light-hearted dig at the sexual mores of their peers — would stand up to inspection if they released it now. Or whether it was a Generation X take on what is now seen as a Gen Z, gender-queer perspective. ‘We talked about it in kind of a glib way. I think it’s a bit more in-depth now. I don’t know if we put ‘Girls and Boys’ out now, maybe it would be okay. It’s not like we made any more songs about it, it’s not on our mind any more than it was for a hot second with anybody else in the Nineties.’

He has learnt the most about gender politics now from Pepper’s schooling. ‘They’re quite political and just really the politics of friendships with girls is so much more complicated. I wasn’t quite ready for that. There are so many rules and regulations now, so many things you can’t say; conversations can be a little bit of a minefield.’ But he hopes it is getting better than it was for female music fans, at least. ‘It’s a shame that it has to go so extreme to change it. People know what’s acceptable, but some people don’t care what’s acceptable.’

Coxon’s elder daughter often introduces him to new music. ‘I’ll hear Black Midi on the radio and say to Pepper, “Flipping heck, I heard this,” and she’ll go, “Oh, they were at a party I went to.” She’s in among that stuff. A bit like I was in among all that stuff, but I was in the group at that age.’ He rates bands such as Black Country, New Road and Jockstrap but does find a lot of music ‘hard work’, he says. ‘I’ve got to be careful of my cynicism when I’m faced with something that just sounds like something that was done 20 years ago.’

Meanwhile, before the school run with Dorelia, the thing that’s been getting Coxon up at 6am every morning is soundtracking a series of Netflix projects like End of the F***ing World and I am Not Okay With This (‘I’d have three or four songs to write a day. Some of them were not even commented on by the End of the F***ing World people, they were too mad!’), and tinkering around on guitar with Duran Duran on their comeback album (‘Nick Rhodes said to me, “It might be fun if you joined us in the studio,” and I was like, “Aha, you’re joking, yes?”’). Then more recently, writing his own material with former Pipettes singer Rose Elinor Dougall. ‘I was sitting writing with somebody I didn’t really know that well at the time — we’d take a walk to Hampstead Heath or up to Planet Organic and I’d be playing her bits of The Left Banke off a little speaker, but it was flipping easier than I thought it was going to be. It became pretty effortless.’

But of course, everyone wants to know about the rumours that there will be a Blur tour next year. The details have not been ironed out, says Coxon. ‘No, I don’t know what’s going on with Blur, we haven’t really talked about anything,’ he says, shutting it down initially. ‘I don’t really know what it is. It’s actually quite important that I say nothing about it for personal reasons.’

We’re about to wrap the interview, so I give it another prod… A reunion is on the cards, right? ‘I hope so,’ he says smiling. ‘We always get round to it sooner or later.’ Next year could indeed be the summer of Britpop, as Pulp are set to return, too. ‘That would be fun. Just need Oasis to do it. Knock those brothers’ heads together.’ So perhaps now, could it be a member of Blur who brokers the Oasis Peace Treaty? ‘Yes, any day. I’d do that. I’d have a chat with them.’ No sign of anxiety here.