But the idea from Advance UK Trust has persuaded at least one of the managers to agree a meeting this week to discuss it. Advance manager James Carthew first suggested that Alliance Trust and Second Alliance, run by the same firm in Dundee, should merge. Then he broadened the idea to ten trusts worth £8bn. The Alliance funds have a good record, but Second's shares were seldom dealt and were knocked out of the FT 250 and FT All-Share indices.