"During the last year [after Keenan was released and replaced by Tom Sutherland and Terry Anderson] we had a radio. We heard about the internet and I was like, 'What's that? What about the Telex?' But because of the celebrity that we curiously garnered through being stuck in a hole in the ground, and thanks to Jill's efforts, we found when we came out that we were suddenly able to get jobs and leapfrog those dark years. So, without obviously thinking, 'Oh, that was a good thing that happened', I could think, 'Well that was an awful thing that happened, but my life is now in a place where I would always have loved it to have been.'''