Some Indian officers freely admit that foreign fighters, mostly Pakistanis and Afghans, are rarely taken prisoner because they fight to the death, and because India doesn't want to prisoners which provoke Islamists to take hostages to secure prisoner releases. Murders, suspicious disappearances, and apparently motiveless crimes have become routine in the Himalayan foothills and the Vale of Kashmir. Between 33,000 and 80,000 people have been killed.