Like Dye, John Chatfield-Roberts, a fund of funds manager at financial house Jupiter, also believes price to earnings ratios suggest markets have further to fall. He points out that UK share prices trade at a heady average of 20 times their earnings. The lower the figure, the cheaper the market. Over the past century, he said, the average p/e ratio at the end of a bear market has been 11. After the last recession in 1973, it was just five.