What about the title he has given the pair, As Time Goes By, after that haunting song from the 1942 film Casablanca? "Oh, I long ago decided that I wanted to do a picture with that title. It's a subject that fascinates me. I remember one of my students asking me: What are the pictures you would most like to paint?' And I said, without any hesitation: As Time Goes By'."
Did Hodgkin listen to the song while he was planning the work? He shakes his head. "I prefer silence. Antony has a passion for music, so I probably listen to it more than I think. But increasingly I like to stop, think and read. I'm an avid newspaper reader: I like to discover, however imperfectly, what's going on." So has he been affected by the ever more apocalyptic, recession-torn mood of 2009? "Apocalyptic? People love to think that, but I think it's an exaggeration."