'Well, you know, we had a different mission, because we were there to write. But we certainly put ourselves in the same settings,' he admits. Like? 'Well, we were particularly keen to participate in any rituals that we could. If we hadn't been there on this project, I think we'd have been too reserved to kinda crash these things. We often didn't really understand what was going on. But it's quite moving to participate in someone else's ritual because you're joining a lot of people who are interested in something bigger than themselves.